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Silence Kit

Eric Martin  May 12 2008 - 11:23am   

Matt Duss passes along news that the Sadrist trend is tightening the rope that binds Sistani to the Maliki government, in all its sagging popularity and misdeed:

An aide to Muqtada al-Sadr has lashed out at Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, Iraq's most revered Shia cleric, for keeping silent over clashes that have killed hundreds in Baghdad. [...]

Speaking at Friday prayers, Sheikh Sattar Battat, an aide to al-Sadr, said he was "surprised" that al-Sistani had failed to condemn the violence.

We are surprised by the silence in Najaf where the highest Shiite religious authority is based," he said, referring to al-Sistani.

"For 50 days Sadr City is being bombed ... Children, women and old people are being killed by all kinds of US weapons, and Najaf remains silent."

Battat said the al-Sadr movement has not seen any "reaction or fatwa [religious decree] from Najaf" criticising the government assault on Shia fighters in Sadr City.

"For us this means that Najaf accepts the massacre in Sadr City," he said.

As Duss observes, Sistani's acquiescence will likely play to Sadr's advantage:

One of the central elements of the elder Sadr’s program (and now of Muqtada’s) was a distinction between the “silent clerics” (represented by Sistani and the Najaf establishment) — bookish sorts who stay remote from the lives of their people — and the “speaking clerics” who take part in the suffering and struggle of the Shia, as Sadeq did. And here the “silent clerics” once again stayed silent while Shia were crushed in Sadr City, of all places, while medical care, food, and shelter are being doled out in Muqtada’s name. It doesn’t require any math to see that Sadr benefits politically from this.

Not just politically, but religiously as well - to the extent the two are separate.  Such a strengthening of Sadr vis-a-vis Sistani is, in my opinion, a shame for reasons beyond the silent/speaking distinctions set forth above (though, obviously, I am not an Iraqi and thus should not get a vote).  Babak Rahimi has an excellent summary of some of Sistani's religious views, and how he espouses a brand of theology that can co-exist with liberal democratic traditions (at least, moreso than Sadr's):

Like his father, Sistani is an adherent of a democratic Shi'i tradition that dates back to the Persian Constitutional Revolution of 1906 to 1911 and continued with the Khatami reformist movement (1997–2005). [...]

Sistani’s insistence on recognizing Islam as a fundamental component of the Iraqi constitution is not intended to make Iraq an Islamist state based on juridical sharia strictures, but rather to limit the total secularization of the constitution, which would deprive a Muslim country of an “authentic” national identity based on its Islamic heritage.

Sadr, on the other hand, is much more amenable to vilayet-e faqih, or an Iranian style rule by clerical jurisprudence that pays less regard to individual rights.  However, our continued assault on the Sadrist trend has been backfiring and increasing his popularity at the expense of religious leaders like Sistani that we should be acting to empower. Shockingly enough, military actions in densely populated areas leading to massive civilian casualties aren't very well received in the target population. 

Sadly, the strategic thinkers in the Bush administration seem incapable of devising a plan to empower favored factions that doesn't involve the employ of self-defeating brute strength.  It would be better if, instead, we adopted some of that fancy counterinsurgency doctrine that Petraeus is supposedly implementing.   

Nice of you to concede you
americannational  May 12 2008 - 3:33pm   

Nice of you to concede you don't have a vote. Now why not be a good American non-interventionist and maintain a studied indifference as to what brand of Islamic law Iraq chooses to implement? America has no interests in the Mideast other than oil (which it should have outgrown by development years ago) and whoever owns that will sell it at market prices unless our unneeded and unwanted support of Israel continues assisting Palestinian oppression and Israeli expansion. And if Bush Administration war criminals had more of your lamented finesse in counterinsurgency, it would still involve war crimes, which you advocate a kinder,gentler stripe thereof.


Thanks...
Eric Martin  May 12 2008 - 3:43pm   

Nice of you to concede you don't have a vote.

Concede?  Why that?  I have opposed this war from the first mention of Saddam is the new Hitler.  I have never claimed a right to dictate Iraq's political or religious life.  Quite the opposite.  This is not a concession, just an acknowledgment of my position all along.

And the phrasing was intentional.  I said "should not" instead of "do not" because, due to the occupation, the US does currently have a vote of sorts.  Not that it should.

which you advocate a kinder,gentler stripe thereof

No, I advocate withdrawing all US military personnel over the course of 18-24 months.  Short of that optimal policy, yes, I would prefer the US forces conduct themselves in a way that minimizes civilian deaths.


Studied indifference
The last Americ...  May 12 2008 - 4:42pm   

Equals illiberal neutralism, not to mention betrayal and on a perverse level collusion with islamic supremacism. What nonsense you've written.


Your response...
Eric Martin  May 12 2008 - 4:49pm   

is telling.


The jig is up, E-Mart
Swopa  May 12 2008 - 5:07pm   

In combination, these comments have you pegged -- you are simultaneously a willing tool of both Islamic supremacists and American imperialism.

The shameful truth is out.


Nothin' new Swopa...
Eric Martin  May 12 2008 - 5:47pm   

A few months back, Paleo and Nibras Kazimi, respectively, alternated calling me a conspiracy theorist for suggesting that oil had something to do with the invasion of Iraq, and then naive for refusing to see the value in fighting wars for oil...in Iraq and, maybe, Iran too if necessary. 


How long would it have taken
americannational  May 12 2008 - 5:00pm   

How long would it have taken to withdraw the day Saddam's statue was toppled and phony camerawork affected to make the act look more popular than it was? That's how long it should take now at the longest.

"Betrayal?" Not according to the masses of Iraqis who have wanted the occupier gone since the day he arrived, without caveat as to what might ensue. But at least paleoprog isn't neutral-he's a promoter of American imperial supremacism and all the decadence from Hollywood, New York and Tel Aviv that places on the Islamic world.

 


americannational....
Eric Martin  May 12 2008 - 5:57pm   

Phil Carter suggested doing an "invasion in reverse" - going out with the speed and via the routes that we came in.  It has a certain appeal.

Personally, however, I favor a more deliberate approach that involves attempting to establish regional cooperation, help from the UN and other actions designed to mitigate the potential negative effects. 

For my money, Steven Simon has one of the best plans out there.


Well Eric there is always
anna missed  May 12 2008 - 9:51pm   

Well Eric there is always the third rail exit scheme, developed by myself (thank you). With my plan we simply keep on and amplify the track we're already on, -  of empowering Iran to assume all important decisions and inter-sectarian negotiations , military training, and reconstruction to the extent that we become so irrelevant  that we can silently slip out the back door, and no one will notice. Or care.


In March, I believe the claim
jrudkis  May 13 2008 - 12:05am   

was that Sistani's silence was agreement with Sadr, and now his silence is agreement with the government.

Silence says a lot.


Jrudkis!
Eric Martin  May 13 2008 - 10:32am   

First of all, let me say that it is very good to hear from you.  This tells me that you're safe and, um, still with us.  Thank you for dropping this note.  Good news.

Let me try to parse the various silences:

In March, Sistani's silence wasn't necessarily a sign that he was backing Sadr, but that he wasn't willing to actually wage open war with Sadr and use his influence to try to disband a popular Shiite militia.  It was more a begrudging recognition of the state of play, and limits of Sistani's range of motion.

Now, his silence is what it is: a sign that he supports the government's crackdown (at least for now, and until and unless he offers clarification - to save face or otherwise).  Not that he is going to openly praise the assault.  But he's willing to sit on his hands.


Thanks.
jrudkis  May 13 2008 - 1:56pm   

I got home about a week ago.  It is very nice to be out of Baghdad, and able to see my kids and drink some beer. 


But...
Eric Martin  May 13 2008 - 1:59pm   

not necessarily in that order ;)


Well, I did get a lot
jrudkis  May 13 2008 - 11:36pm   

beer in me before I saw my kids, but only because the army put me out in Kansas, and my kids were on the Coast.


Kucinich rather than Paul
americannational  May 13 2008 - 12:16pm   

Your egress recomendations are  associated with a continuation of an internationalist interventionism akin to Kucinich and mine to an America First nationalism akin to Paul. AlthoughI can't argue e.g.that  Kucinich's refusal to visit Israel until it vacates the territories symbolizes a marked theoretical improvement in Middle East policy should a fellow traveller assume power, I still favor cold turkey, which will be imposed on the Nation once the Empire collapses anyway.

Meanwhile,  the neocon war whores like "AJ Strata" at strata-sphere.com are claiming Sistani did overtly attack Sadr recently,taking Maliki's side.

 

 

 

 


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